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cbfsoar15
Posted 7/29/2010 7:42 AM
Subject: R22 or 300?



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Starting my flight training Sat.
What should i train in?
Mark
Posted 7/29/2010 9:04 AM
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Well, like I was told, if you can fly an R22, you can fly anything!
cbfsoar15
Posted 7/29/2010 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: R22 or 300?



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Mark - 7/29/2010 10:04 AM

Well, like I was told, if you can fly an R22, you can fly anything!
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I was thinking of the 300 because it doesn't have a Governor,
BUT,There are a lot more 22 around for rent though
do you I think i can transition to no governor without to much trouble? i have a governor in my Mosquito
Think ill go with the 22??
either way is going to be fun

Glider rating in 1976
Single Engine Land in 1996
Helicopter add On in 201?

johnsiebs
Posted 7/29/2010 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: R22 or 300?

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Charlie- I'm training in the 300, which was recommended by several of the mosquito pilots as being the closest in handling characteristics (auto's, feel, etc). I have about 5 hrs now in the 300 & 1hr in the 22. Being semi-retired & grey the 300 has been way more fun & easier to learn on. Feels much more solid & way less twitchy. If I was 30 something it probably wouldn't matter. The hourly rate may be a little more on the 300. Here in Oregon the 300 is less.. Have fun.... John  
Mark
Posted 7/29/2010 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: R22 or 300?



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Well, John is right, the 300 is much more stable feeling and not as twitchy and probably mirrors the flight characteristics of the mosquito more than that of the R22. But, like I said earlier, if you can fly the R22, you can fly anything.....at least that's what I've been told by very experienced pilots. As far as flying with or with out the governor, you can turn it off in the R22 so you can get accustom to flying without it.
cbfsoar15
Posted 7/29/2010 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: R22 or 300?



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johnsiebs - 7/29/2010 10:34 AM

Charlie- I'm training in the 300, which was recommended by several of the mosquito pilots as being the closest in handling characteristics (auto's, feel, etc). I have about 5 hrs now in the 300 & 1hr in the 22. Being semi-retired & grey the 300 has been way more fun & easier to learn on. Feels much more solid & way less twitchy. If I was 30 something it probably wouldn't matter. The hourly rate may be a little more on the 300. Here in Oregon the 300 is less.. Have fun.... John  



Thanks 'Mark and John

They say the 300 autos like a brick

300 300 per hour
R22 265 per hour

I think ill go with the 22 for rental reasons later, but i have been known to change my mind

Im 58 but my wife ses i think im 20

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Mark
Posted 7/29/2010 4:57 PM
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I find that they both auto just fine and it's probably all in what you're use to and with a little practice, you should be able to transition out of one and in to any other kind of helicopter.
Rob Hall
Posted 7/30/2010 12:38 AM
Subject: RE: R22 or 300?

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Charlie
The Mossie feels much more like the 300 than the R22. In fact flying the Mossie I find myself fiddling with my right thumb looking for the trim switch! But the R22 is still one of my favourite helos.
Rob
turboeddie
Posted 7/31/2010 6:09 PM
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are you doing your training at f45? i did my add on in 05 with ocean helicopters. a blast. will look you up in oct when i get home to stuart. have fun. keep us posted on your journey. turbo
cbfsoar15
Posted 8/1/2010 4:50 PM
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Training at cloud nine( north county airport)West Palm Beach they have a 300 ocean didnt but I Now intend on training in the 22
First lesson 1 hr in r22
Could hold a hover, pedal turns both ways
approath to hover and run on landing instructor said i should fly the 300 would save me money because i could solo before the 20 hours duel required by the faa in the 22
instructor said he never had student do that before.
second lesson different instructor 1.1 hours Approach to hover set down, and pick back up,take off, taxied back to hangers no assistance.
I have trouble in the turns i loose airspeed so far my biggest problem.
..I have a death grip on the cyclic and trying to find out how to position everything but believe it or not I can take off fly a pattern and land without assistance.
also i am very aware the instructor is there
I do have a power rating
i think the glider time helps in my approaches
and maby that i fly remote control helicopters?
Dont know why im doing well but needless to say I'm Very happy with the way things are going.
I will not try to fly my Mosquito until I get my rating and can auto auto auto.
Charlie



Edited by cbfsoar15 8/1/2010 5:04 PM
turboeddie
Posted 8/2/2010 4:18 PM
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charlie, nice to see you are so close to me in stuart. F45 was a fun place for me to get my add on rating. x country to pahokee is on the list for sure. i remember it like it was yesterday. will be back in october. sounds like you are doing exceptionally good. have a blast. 
cbfsoar15
Posted 8/7/2010 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: R22 or 300?



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Third lesson,
1.2


Approach to hover, pattern work, quick stops ,right and left petal turns,could feel the left skid touch down first,starting to feel more relaxed still tiring toward end of session cant wait till 8:AM tomorrow morning
rv7guy
Posted 8/7/2010 8:10 PM
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I think you'd be better off in the 300. Because of the special FARs regarding the Robinson you'll spend more money in the long run. The 300 autos much better than the R22. Neither compares to larger helos. You'd probably need 7-10 hours for solo in the 300.

Darwin N. Barrie
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